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The following is a series of pictures of a dissasembled undated Simson luger that has probably seen better days however all the small parts are proofed with the Simson eagle over 6.

The interesting thing about this luger is that some of the small parts (screws) are fire blued like the Krieghoff and the parts are all stamped with the eagle over 6 and the inside of the side plate has the 6 like the Krieghoff 7.

We know that the Simson tools were expropriated by the Germans and given to Krieghoff so it is possible that some of the techniques or the assembly workers were transferred to the Krieghoff plant.

It is more of a coincidence that the proofs are stamped in similar locations to the Krieghoff.

The grips are vastly different as is a host of other manufacturing characteristics.

Enjoy the photo's and feel free to ask for others if need be.

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James....... Thanks for posting. You got me inspired to check out my undated #2014. Mine has the E/6 on all the same places except the trigger lever and the coupling link. Mine has a "0' on the inside arm of the sideplate where your "6" is. Based on this LARGE sample one might think they used the second number of the SN on the inside???
Interesting that yours had more stamps than mine considering it was 6000+ guns later.

Sure do like your idea that some of the HK people probably came with the tools.
 

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Hello James
I do same than Dave so:
Mine as a "5" stamped inside side plate and under toggle but no AK
The letter is "D" yours is "V"
Also stamped "73" on the frame near the safety bar.
Only one A6 stamped on the front trigger gard.
I don't have the mag and looking for one Simson.
The grips are new no genuine.
The number is "7539" no letter no date
Hope this could help.
Best regards. Pat.
 

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Pat..... I have 3 extra Simson mags. 1984,1117a(with police "1" overstamp on top E/6) and 1703a. Not real close to your gun but have the E/6 stamps on spine and double E/6 on bottom. Let me know if you have any interest...... dave
 

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Gentlemen

Just got back from two large gunshows, so excuse the tardy reply.

Thankyou for the info regarding your Simsons.

Dave you are probably most correct about the digit bieng the second digit of the serial number but it is mainly the abundance of stamps and their locations that caused me to speculate about the workers from the Simson plant going with the tools. Luger 1900 example is also utilizing the second digit of his serial number so mayhaps we have a similitary happening.

LU1900

My frame is stamped 323 where the sear safety slides up

The Simson luger is a under studied luger, like the Vickers and the Kü Mauser so it is nice when a few examples pop up now and then.

Will post pictures of the complete luger when finished cleaning her up.
 

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Ed

That would be a very good thing to do.My luger did not come with a simson magazine but it did come with a police acceptance starburst K inscription on the magazine bottom.which would fit the weimar era of production.

I have no proof as to the origin of the magazine.
 
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