Snail Drum Mags
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Roy,
Here's a photo of the 2 handles of the Trommel mags as described by Lugerlou.
MARC
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Here's a photo of the 2 handles of the Trommel mags as described by Lugerlou.
MARC
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Guys I cannot thank you enough for these facts you have given me. It is the type with the hinged handle that I plan to buy, now I feel better about forking out the money knowing it is correct for my pistol.
All the best and thanks.
Roy
All the best and thanks.
Roy
I have not yet received the mag. I purchased and have now came across a second one. On this one the spring seems very weak to the point I do not think it will function properly. Is there an outfit that can replace this spring or can you buy one and do it yourself?
Roy.
Roy.
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Roy,
I don't really know what you mean by too weak. There are two springs in a Trommel mag. One is a captured spring that is loaded by turning the handle one turn and locking it in its recepticle. The other one is a long coil spring (2ft?) that actually pushes the cartridges up the magazine. If the captured spring has been preloaded, then the coil spring will not feel too strong. When the captured spring is released, like when the mag was loaded, the coil spring will have a lot of force behind it and feel alot stronger. I, my self have disassembled these mags several times....dealing with the coil spring to get it back in is a bit of a bear. I don't know anyone who makes replacement springs, except Wolf, and you would have to give them all the dimensions...or the old spring.
Dave
I don't really know what you mean by too weak. There are two springs in a Trommel mag. One is a captured spring that is loaded by turning the handle one turn and locking it in its recepticle. The other one is a long coil spring (2ft?) that actually pushes the cartridges up the magazine. If the captured spring has been preloaded, then the coil spring will not feel too strong. When the captured spring is released, like when the mag was loaded, the coil spring will have a lot of force behind it and feel alot stronger. I, my self have disassembled these mags several times....dealing with the coil spring to get it back in is a bit of a bear. I don't know anyone who makes replacement springs, except Wolf, and you would have to give them all the dimensions...or the old spring.
Dave
Dave, Perhaps I am not explaining myself too well, I have never owned one of these magazines.
With no bullets in it when I turn the lever anti clockwise I can feel there is a spring in there but say I let go of the lever there is barely enough spring pressure to make the lever return to it original position. However if I turn the lever all the way to where it locks then put in about 5 bullets by hand and then release the lever it will feed the bullets into the gun. I ran these bullets through the gun by just pulling the toggle up and ejecting the bullets.
It just seemed not right to me that without bullets in the tube of the mag. that the spring seemed so weak but perhaps this is how it should be.
Thanks for your time.
Roy
With no bullets in it when I turn the lever anti clockwise I can feel there is a spring in there but say I let go of the lever there is barely enough spring pressure to make the lever return to it original position. However if I turn the lever all the way to where it locks then put in about 5 bullets by hand and then release the lever it will feed the bullets into the gun. I ran these bullets through the gun by just pulling the toggle up and ejecting the bullets.
It just seemed not right to me that without bullets in the tube of the mag. that the spring seemed so weak but perhaps this is how it should be.
Thanks for your time.
Roy
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Roy,
I think you meant to say clockwise. I'm not telling you to do this, but if you took it apart, you would not be able to see the main spring...it is inside a shell with a little flat blade sticking out that pushes against the magazine spring after it is unlocked. Is it hard for you to wind the spring one turn and lock it? If not, the mainspring is possibly broken. If you let go of the lever when you are winding it, does it spring back with any force? Don't do it, just put some tension on it and let it return. I reread your last post....you said it did not have much force. Are there any dents in the housing where it may be rubbing? I still think the main spring may be broken. This I do not know how to replace. I think it is a coiled flat spring like you used to see in wind up toys.
Dave
I think you meant to say clockwise. I'm not telling you to do this, but if you took it apart, you would not be able to see the main spring...it is inside a shell with a little flat blade sticking out that pushes against the magazine spring after it is unlocked. Is it hard for you to wind the spring one turn and lock it? If not, the mainspring is possibly broken. If you let go of the lever when you are winding it, does it spring back with any force? Don't do it, just put some tension on it and let it return. I reread your last post....you said it did not have much force. Are there any dents in the housing where it may be rubbing? I still think the main spring may be broken. This I do not know how to replace. I think it is a coiled flat spring like you used to see in wind up toys.
Dave
Dave, Geo, I'm sorry I meant clockwise, as I said this is only a mag. I saw for sale. When I receive the one I bought last week I can compare the two. The one I bought I was assured was in 'excellent working order'....I do hope this is the case. This one I'm talking about with the spring problem I am convinced is real it had the proof mark 'Crown/D (or Crown/S)on the tube. I may be able to get a photo but I'd bet it is original hence my thoughts of buying it and somehow getting it repaired. But even if you can only load it by hand and it is cosmeticaly attractive I'd imagine it still has value.
Thanks again guys.
Roy
Thanks again guys.
Roy
I bought my type 1 for about $1300 the repo loader was $600 and there is a trick to loading it. at first you think your bullets are too long.You crank the winder first and lock it into place ,then load a couple by hand and then press in the rest with the loader.
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