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I just purchased a 1917 Erfurt with very odd unit marks. Very small font and stamped long the edge of the strap. From top down. I hope they are indeed unit marks. The pistol was billed as a police, but it's not a police rework. And I don't believe the markings are police.
These are the sellers photos and kind of fuzzy. Will post better and more complete photos when it arrives.The unit mark is:

17.3KP.FLA.M.C or(G?).ABT. 912

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Any ideas??

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This is quite a stretch, but when I was stationed in Germany in the mid-60s, I was assigned to a Flugabwehrraketenbataillon (literally Air defense rocket battalion – a NIKE Hercules missile air defense unit). The abbreviation for Flugabwehr raketen was FlaRak.
Now for the wild guesses:
Could the FLA on this Luger indicate air defense?
Could the K in KP indicate Kostal (coastal)
Could the MG be Maschinegewehr?
Do we have a costal air defense ack-ack machine gun detachment (Abteilung) here?
And, before you ask… no, I am not over medicated.
 

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This is quite a stretch, but when I was stationed in Germany in the mid-60s, I was assigned to a Flugabwehrraketenbataillon (literally Air defense rocket battalion – a NIKE Hercules missile air defense unit). The abbreviation for Flugabwehr raketen was FlaRak.
Now for the wild guesses:
Could the FLA on this Luger indicate air defense?
Could the K in KP indicate Kostal (coastal)
Could the MG be Maschinegewehr?
Do we have a costal air defense ack-ack machine gun detachment (Abteilung) here?
And, before you ask… no, I am not over medicated.
 

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Hi Ron,
That would be as good a guess as any. Better than I can come up with. There is nothing in any of the books that I have. I asked Jeff Noll and he has'nt gotten back to me yet. The troubling part, is the size of the stamping and the way it is applied.

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Hi Ron,
That would be as good a guess as any. Better than I can come up with. There is nothing in any of the books that I have. I asked Jeff Noll and he has'nt gotten back to me yet. The troubling part, is the size of the stamping and the way it is applied.

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Your estimate is better than anything that I could come up with.
The marking is late war and not according to rules and regulations.
On page 149 of Imperial Lugers the marking: FI.A.6. 2 on a 1914 Erfurt LP08 is estimated to signify Fliegertruppe Unit 6, Weapon 2.
Ron Smith
Excellent find.
Jan
 

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Your estimate is better than anything that I could come up with.
The marking is late war and not according to rules and regulations.
On page 149 of Imperial Lugers the marking: FI.A.6. 2 on a 1914 Erfurt LP08 is estimated to signify Fliegertruppe Unit 6, Weapon 2.
Ron Smith
Excellent find.
Jan
 

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Another 1917.... Ron, Ron, what am I going to do, you are showing up many of us, and our wives are going to be angry with you!

Very nice find Ron!

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Another 1917.... Ron, Ron, what am I going to do, you are showing up many of us, and our wives are going to be angry with you!

Very nice find Ron!

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Jan, Thanks! Would this be a scarce marking? I was concerned that it was'nt even an honest unit mark.

Ed, Tell them to take a number, I'll call them in order as soon as I heal up from the first beating. ;) The up side is that if the Mrs. decides to shoot me. It will have to be with a Luger.

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Jan, Thanks! Would this be a scarce marking? I was concerned that it was'nt even an honest unit mark.

Ed, Tell them to take a number, I'll call them in order as soon as I heal up from the first beating. ;) The up side is that if the Mrs. decides to shoot me. It will have to be with a Luger.

Thanks! Ron
 
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Hello Ron, In regards to your 1917 dated Erfurt, on page 182 of German Military Terms 1918, The FLA portion could stand for Feld-Luftschiffer-Abteilung (balloon detachment). Combining FLA.M.G. could translate to Flieger-Abwehr-Maschinen-Gewehr (Anti-aircraft machine gun.
 
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Hello Ron,
I'm sorry for the late return, but I just became a new member and I'm trying to catch up on the forum. You might want to stick with the balloon detachment since there is a lot of hot air out there. A balloon detachment piece is very desirable. You scored big time. Congratulations!
 

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Shelly, I remember that post. I researched every referrence I could find, including Cron's, and still came up blank. I passed right over "Cron's" documentation of "Flamga" units. It just did'nt connect at the time. It could very well be a arbitrarily applied unit marks.

Ron
 
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