[Guest]

Hello, nice Forum!
Last week I bought a Swiss Parabellum 06/29, #70184. It was my first one and I had to learn a lot about Lugers.
In a book about Swiss handguns I read how I find the date of manufacturing inside the weapon. I searched, because I need to know when my Parbellum was produced. But the number I've found was uncleary to read. My book says a number for example "943" means september 1943. But the numbers inside my weapon is something like "46" or "43". Have I found the right number or do I have to search at another part inside the parabellum.
Does anybody understand what I mean? And could you please help me and show me a picture of the number. Thanks.
And by the way...excuse my english. I'm from Switzerland.

 

[Pete E.]

Markus,

Look in the front frame well...where the take-down lever runs through. The date stamp is located there.

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Since you live in Switzerland, you might want to contact this fellow, Stefan Mahrer...would can be most helpful locating holsters, parts, etc.

http://www.swissdagger.com/index.html

 

[Guest]

Well, I see, I searched at the right place. But all I could find was this strange stamp. What does it mean? Is ist a number? It look like a mistake of stamping.
Thanks for the interesting link!

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[Pete E.]

Hi Markus,

Based on the tables on page 207 in the Swiss luger book by V. Bobba; your pistol with serial number # 70814 was made in 1943...

It is possible your gun has a mistaken stamping...maybe it was made in April of 1943...???

p.s. You have have time to take more photos of your luger, we would love to see them...!

 

[Guest]

Thank you! Tomorrow I'll take some pictures for you.

 

[Guest]

Some promised pics of my Swiss Pistol 1906/29, #70184:



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[Pete E.]

Hi Markus,

Thanks for the additional photos and congratulations on your luger purchase.

I notice that your toggle "knobs" have unusual striations (i.e. grooves) that I have not seen on M1929 Bern lugers, before. Possibly yours was modified by a previous owner/gunsmith to improve the friction when grabbing the knobs with ones hand/fingers...

Your luger is also stamped with W+F prior to the serial number. My luger (serial # 56777) has the +/M in a cartoush prior to its serial number. Inspector Muhlemann may have retired by the time your pistol and others was being made. In V. Bobba's book on Swiss lugers on page 154, that M1929 luger serial # 67074 has the same W+F stamping as yours.

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[Pete E.]

Here is my M1929 Bern luger rig :

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[Pete E.]

Jan or Ed,

Any chance one of you guys could move this entire discussion thread into the Swiss luger section...?

Thanks...

 

[Guest]

I haven't yet seen this difference at the "knobs". But you're right. I can't find a picture of another M1929 with these striations.
No problems, I think, I can live with them.
Could you show me a picture of your "Swiss Cross" ond top of the Luger? And does your M1929 have brown or red grips. I can't recognize it exactly.

 

[Pete E.]

Hi Markus,

Here are the photos...

My M1929 Bern has the red canvesite plastic grips and magazine bottom. I also have a brown and black variety, as well.

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[Guest]

Hi Pete,
Last week I was looking for brown grips. But they're very rare. So I got again some black grips as reserve. Do you only collect Swiss Lugers or also other Swiss weapons, Swiss rifles for example? If you're interested visit my homepage: www.valor.ch

 

[Pete E.]

Hi Markus,

I think the red grips are the most difficlut to find; brown and black are easier to locate here in the USA.

You have a very nice web page with interesting weapons.

My Swiss interests are primarily Swiss lugers and M1878, M1882, and M1929 Swiss revolvers.

You might also want to visit the following Swiss guns web site. They are also friendly there and have many members that live in CH and elsewhere in Europe :

http://pub18.ezboard.com/btheswissriflesdotcommessageboard