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I got myself into quite a pickle with these grips. I bought them here on the forum. After having them for about five days I determined that they, in my opinion, are reproductions. Although they are Bakelite, which threw me off the track a little bit. I tried to return them to the seller, but he was not interested in that. As most you know I collect 1941 guns and accessories. I was thrilled to get another set of grips. I’m going to show you pictures of these . Please anyone that has interest, comment on whether or not you believe them to be authentic. I will give you all of my comments on why I believe they are not , and also show you a real pair of the same type later in this thread .
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Never studied these in much detail.
I took some shots of the grips that are on my Portuguese pistol, 5012m.

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Hello forum ,
I got myself into quite a pickle with these grips. I bought them here on the forum. After having them for about five days I determined that they, in my opinion, are reproductions. Although they are Bakelite, which threw me off the track a little bit. I tried to return them to the seller, but he was not interested in that. As most you know I collect 1941 guns and accessories. I was thrilled to get another set of grips. I’m going to show you pictures of these . Please anyone that has interest, comment on whether or not you believe them to be authentic. I will give you all of my comments on why I believe they are not , and also show you a real pair of the same type later in this thread .
Here are some links and the grips in question

These are posts from the seller:





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Talk to Taudelt (David Molchen) and ask him if they look authentic...he is the "guru" on these "Bakelite" grips, Jason...Send him a personal message...

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There were repro bakelite grips coming out of Ukraine. They also did HSc grips. Availability may be an issue under current circumstances.
 
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Did you do the hot pin test on them?
I am pretty sure this was the original seller;

 
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Did you do the hot pin test on them?
The previous owner of the grips did do the hot pin test and according to him they passed. I can see on the internal panel of the grips where they were tested. I can tell they are Bakelite just from the sound they make when I tap them together gently. You can see the two marks where the test was applied.
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The first issue I had with them was this raised lip to the screw hole . I have 7 or 8 good sets of grips, and the lip of the screw hole is inverted on those . It’s a pronounced raised ridge ,and filed down on the right panel . I don’t like this
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The next thing I observed was the screw holes . They were kind of threaded ….. I would say meh at best . You can make a couple lines out but not good threads . They were filled with new grease . A lot of grease . I don’t like this
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The next thing I observed was the diamond pattern on the front . It wasn’t worn ….. it was a weird mold . I definitely don’t like that . The diamonds are not crisp
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