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This just doesn't seem right!

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Dear All:

On e bay, there is a German holster that the seller is claiming it is a Luger holster Rare transitional P.08/P.38 version. See below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288831846&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

To me it looks like a cut down 1941 Luger holster! I know a Luger fits in a P38 holster but I would say that trying to remove it from the holster when on you belt as a side arm would be very difficult! I think what is being sold is a fake!

Below is my question and sellers response! Seems like a nice enough guy.

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Dear blcman,

Dear Friend: Was just wondering where you found the information on this holster stating that it is a transitional? I would be interested in reading any publication that you may have that states this as I am a avid Luger & P38 collector. It appears to me that someone cut the top 3/4" of the spare magazine leather so a P38 magazine would fit ruined a nice 1941 Luger holster.

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Hello: That would be a person's first thoughts, however; I sent photos to Gene Bender and he agreed with my assessment. He kept the photos and I gave him permission to use in his next book dealing with just such holsters. I am certain that he would happy to confirm this to you if you wish to contact him. The most telling aspect of this holster is that the spare mag pouch is a P.38 pouch and not a modified P.08 pouch. I assure you that it left the factory in this configuration. I think it would be an asset to any P.38 collection. However, if you buy it and are not satisfied with it, send it back for a refund. Thanks for your interest. Bill

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Regards,

George
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Here are some pictures of a similar P08/P38 holster marked on back:
P.08 cey /42/WaA920.Took some time (and Jerry’s urging) to dig it out


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Figure 1.The mag pouch dimensions are much larger than the P08 mag that is in place. There is no indication of stretching etc of an original P08 mag pouch.




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Figure 2. At top of mag pouch, one can see an indentation from the base of a previously carried P38 mag.



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Figure 3. Exact fit for a P38 mag, including the angle of top cut.



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Figure 4. Inside holster one can see P38-like grip panel striations impressed into the leather.

This holster contained a P08 when I bought it from an old luger collector years ago. However it bears evidence of previous P38 use and mag pouch is certainly made for P38-like mag. I recollect a discussion about these P08/P38 holsters years ago, but cannot find reference. During my digging, came across another example of holster conversion: a P38 holster converted to P39(t) by addition of spacer in mag pouch .(page 222 in Whittington, vol 3). Any other examples of these conversions?
John
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