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This just doesn't seem right!

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George
Dear All:

On e bay, there is a German holster that the seller is claiming it is a Luger holster Rare transitional P.08/P.38 version. See below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288831846&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

To me it looks like a cut down 1941 Luger holster! I know a Luger fits in a P38 holster but I would say that trying to remove it from the holster when on you belt as a side arm would be very difficult! I think what is being sold is a fake!

Below is my question and sellers response! Seems like a nice enough guy.

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Dear blcman,

Dear Friend: Was just wondering where you found the information on this holster stating that it is a transitional? I would be interested in reading any publication that you may have that states this as I am a avid Luger & P38 collector. It appears to me that someone cut the top 3/4" of the spare magazine leather so a P38 magazine would fit ruined a nice 1941 Luger holster.

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Hello: That would be a person's first thoughts, however; I sent photos to Gene Bender and he agreed with my assessment. He kept the photos and I gave him permission to use in his next book dealing with just such holsters. I am certain that he would happy to confirm this to you if you wish to contact him. The most telling aspect of this holster is that the spare mag pouch is a P.38 pouch and not a modified P.08 pouch. I assure you that it left the factory in this configuration. I think it would be an asset to any P.38 collection. However, if you buy it and are not satisfied with it, send it back for a refund. Thanks for your interest. Bill

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Regards,

George
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Most people that can bs well come across as nice guys; Bill Clinton is a classic example. IMHO, this is a dicked with P08 holster. If the holster is, indeed, modified for a P38 by being fitted with a mag pouch that will accept the P38 mag why is the pouch stitched in the original stitch holes punched for the P08 mag? Note the original/extra stitchs at the left top of the holster. A P38 mag is longer, front to back, than a P08 mag, consequently, the only modification appears to consist of cutting the original P08 mag pouch at an angle at the top rather than fitting this holster with a larger mag pouch.

Note that the top hole on "new P38 pouch" is cut through to the top? Not very professional.

But then, Bender seems to agree with the seller. By-the-way, I would not hold my breath until Bender's new book on "modified" holsters hits the market. Of course, I have been accused of being overly pessimistic and I have reason to believe that there is more than a bit of truth in these accusations.
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Had I but known that keokiGeo was the previous owner of this "transitional" I would have never doubted it's authenticity. Seriously, given Geo's first hand knowledge of this holster, I accept that the top of the mag pouch was shortened at the factory sufficiently to accept a P38 mag. The difference between the P08 and P38 mag is not that significant, the latter being longer front to back and shorter top to bottom. I reckon that P08 mag pouches were modified as the holes in the holster and mag pouch appear to be original for the P08 holster. Lopping the top would remedy the one problem and the original mag pouch could easily be enlarged by wet stretching it to fit the larger P38 mag.

A quick fix to solve a logistics problem?

Regarding the size of magazine pouches on P08 holsters; you might wish to compare those on the Imperial holsters v. Third Reich. For what it's worth.

Very interesting!
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