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Digging deep into my collection I thought that perhaps this example would help to shead some more light on the subject of S's found on Weimar era lugers, but then that is my opinion and does not conclusively prove whether or not the letter S does , in fact, represent Simson one way or another. It does rather adds to the discussion. This is not normally my kind of item to possess but the very nature of having two matching magazine rig with such unusual features drew my attention to it. Trust that you will find it as interesting as I have.

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129.56KB This holster is my candidate of the Police using a contractor or forced labor camp to produce such substandard products. It certainly was not done by any of the known major holster suppliers to the Police of the time.

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122.61KB The attempted denazification shown here is or was the allowed and prefered method of doing so , in the then West German Government. It was done by rounding off the tip of a drill rod and burnishing the leather with this drill rod with the use of a drill press or electric hand drill.

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125.06KB Numberous parts have been ground and renumbered such as the side plate and the take down lever shown here.

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132.8KB Normal array of DWM proofmarks found on this non stamped 1920, 1917 DWM.

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94.5KB Although not shown , there are no police markings on either on the front or rear gripstraps.

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105.93KB Perhaps others have a better memory than I, but wasn't there something brought out about these DR or DP markings found on the barrels. If one looks closely, one can see parts of a droopwinged eagle proof underneath this DR or DP stamp. The only such example found on this gun to have any other proofs but DWM.

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108.76KB Unknown set of numbers which either mean the magazines were used prior to being presented here on this particular pistol or have some other unknown significances.

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124.63KB Suspected Police Depot numbered magazines using these very large numbers and Roman numerals.

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97.95KB I have a hard time trying to figure out why a waffenamt 6 and Simson's logo are both found together on a Police magazine, but nevertheless , we have yet another mystery to unlock.
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60.86KB Lest we have further doubts as to the significance of a letter S inside a triangle , I have presented the Simson company logo which can be found on both paper and on this example of a Simson produced commercial rifle.

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KK, great display and brings a few questions????

Good to see you posting again, are you running out of great examples to share? ~~grinning~~


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quote:Originally posted by huggiebear
Lest we have further doubts as to the significance of a letter S inside a triangle , I have presented the Simson company logo which can be found on both paper and on this example of a Simson produced commercial rifle.
There are stampings that consist of various types of "S's", an S in a circle and triangle, an S in a triangle with a triangle flanking on each side and, then, of course, an entirely different type of S in side a circle. I am certain that these symbols all something; the question is what? We know that Simson used a particular type of logo which differs in several significant respects from other "S" stampings. I find it difficult to believe and presumptious to infer that they all mean the same thing.
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