Trommel magazine info request

Dear experts,

Thank you for all your input on the trommel magazine. I am an information sponge. I don't have it yet, so I don't know if it has any marks left.

I would be curious to see a picture of a type I snail since I can't find one on the net.

This one was found with an artillery luger buried for 80+ years in chalk in the Saint Pierre Vaast Woods near Rancourt and Bouchavesnes. The Germans apparently abandonned their positions and trenches in Mar 1917 so I wonder how this type II got there if they were first issued late 1917? The Germans retreated to the Hindenburg line to the East.

Thanks again.

Sincerely,
Bill Jensen

I can send you some pics only about the bing manufacture
The first model:

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The 2° model:

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The 3° model


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The tops of those three models haven't any reenforcing rings ,only the last one have two rings and the bottom is the same than 3°model:

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I never see the trommel describe in the german book :"Unleitung zur langen Pistole 08" printed Berlin 1917 tafel II page23

Hope some interest for you and Merry Christmas

Thank you all for your continued information and cordial responses.

Here is a picture of the INSIDE of the Trommel. There is a 1917 manual on the Trommel Magazine that is clickable for a few of the pictures. Very interesting. http://www.landofborchardt.com/LP08-article.html I'd love to get a copy of this manual or electronic form of it !

I learned that my relic Trommel pictured first was found inserted into my relic luger, at the Mar 14, 1917 evacuation zone on the map. The Luger has no discernable date remaining, but has a relieved sear making it 1916 at the earliest according to my research.

I am unable to find any more info on the unusual trommel lacking two reinforcing rings on the front, but just a 1" 'washer' in the center. It is likely that type II goes back to Mar 1917 then, since that was when it was abandonned. The trommel was sent from France yesterday, and I read that maybe it might be loaded since the arm is locked ! How dangerous are the rounds? What a "secret weapon" they produced.

I am amazed that the lighter spring can make it through the elbow bend, and the bullets are not jammed there since the angulation seems awkward. Also I wonder why it was designed so that the snail curves left, interfering with a right handed user?

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Hello "eroane" , about your suggestion
Only about the BING manufacture:
--------For me your trommel is a 3°model

I know two 1°model N°8412 and 24779 :just the same describe in the "Anleitung zur langen Pistole 08 mit ansteckbarem Trommelmagazin" but have one renforcing ring on bottom with the telescoping winding and two littles screws on bottom.

The second model is describe by a forum-member N°63808 different bottom with one screw and bolt but telescoping winding .

The third model same than precedent but folding winding I know N°135435,161747,186032,198765 and 199078

1°,2° and 3° model don't have reenforcing ring on top

The last model as the folding winding and the two reenforcing rings on top.I know N°225740,255740,299075,333539,420603,499683,726571

About AEG manufacture , all I see are same model those I know N°963,1094,48239,57123,65832.

I have the pics from all the trommels I describe if some interest about them

But anyone have ever see the trommel describe in the "Anleitung zur langen Pistole 08 mit ansteckbarem Trommelmagazin" this trommel don't have any renforcing ring top or bottom ?