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Hi all,
I am gathering information on the French pre war and German occupation Unique pistols. This information will be added to a master list being established by French pistol collectors and available to collectors. It is their goal to establish a time frame and serial number range (or ranges) for the pistols produced by Manufacture d'Armes des Pyrennees Francaises (MAPF). This list will include information regarding Model types, variations and serial numbers. Only we, as collectors, can repair the damage done by passing time and lost records.
Here is what is needed.
1-MODEL such as Unique 10,16,18,17 (any and all models). The German occupation ones, and Kriegsmodelle.
2-The complete SERIAL NUMBER.
3-For Unique 17s, the type of SLIDE LEGEND(see example below),

Examples of slide legends on Unique 17s:
Variation one, Three line legend Pre war:

"MANUFACTURE D'ARMES DES PYRENNEES HENDAYE
LE VERITABLE PISTOLET FRANCAIES 'UNIQUE'
MARQUE DEPOSEE CAL. 7.65MM S.F.M"

Second variation, one line legend (French military contract):

"7.65 COURT 9 COUPS "UNIQUE"

And the third type (German occupation):

"7.65 COURT 9 COUPS "UNIQUE"
MANUFACTURE D'ARMES DES PYRENNEES HENDAYE"

4-The type of GRIPS on the pistol.

5-NOTES: to include markings such as Waffenamts (WaA251 or WaA20), Police units, GECO, additional numbers, Property marks, lanyard rings, safety stud added (17s) etc"

This is the only way we can put together the puzzle of pistol production and procurement. Maybe we can answer some long asked questions such as "Was there a new serial number range for German weapons?", "Did the German Unique 16s have their own serial number range?", "How many M17s did France recieve before the invasion?". Similar information is also being collected in France. No personel information is released without owners permission. Please post your information on this forum or you can email me at [email protected]. Your pistol could be the missing piece!

Pre war Unique 17 and German Unique 16


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Three line legend on early Unique 17s and German Unique 16s.


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Lion grips on early 17.


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Have in my collection Unique Model 17, Second Variation slide legend (7.65 COURT 9 COUPS "UNIQUE"), Sn. 24733, WaA251, grips are black plastic (7.65m/m 9 SCHUSS). The gun is in very good condition, but the metal finish is very rough, showing many milling marks that were never polished out before bluing ( the WaA is stamped over milling marks). The barrel is numbered 153, and has the German military proof. There is a lanyard loop on the lower left side of the frame. Pins all too long or too short. Hope this information is helpful. Feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions. The gun was a vet bring back, but I have no information on when or where it was acquired.
 

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I have Kreigsmodell ser# 69204, German Legend , black ribbed "7,65mm 9 SCHUSS" grips. Barrel # 267, slide and frame #259.WaAD20 on right rear frame.Eagle proof on rear edge left barrel flat.Holes drilled for lanyard loop. No loop. Metal is smooth, no mill marks. Appears bead blasted with a thin brassy toned finish.

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Thanks Sauer! Yours is very close to the Unique 16 range and narrows that gap! We will see if they overlap showing two seperate ranges! Your slide apears to be from the left over French stock. It shows up AFTER a German two line legend. May show that German slides were in production as the French ones were being used up. Interesting.
Thanks for sharing. Dean
 

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Thanks Ron.
Come on guys...I know that there are more French Uniques(any model), German occupation Unique 16 and 17s and Kriegsmodelles out there! There is still plenty of room on the list. Its about time you dug that pistol out of the safe and cleaned it anyway!
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Dean, You may already have this. It's posted on an on line dealer.
Mod. 17, Ser# 31061, WaA 231, 7,65 9 SCHUSS black ribbed grips. 2nd German Legend. Dull blue 85%? cond.

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According to Gene Medlin's "Military Handguns of France", it means French Munitions Society...Probably in the correct order of S.F.M. when written in French.
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"Société Française de Munitions"...
 

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Dean, 7.65 COURT 9 COUPS "UNIQUE" s.n.32900 WAa251 ribbed grips 85% 90% finish Hope this helps? I also have a French 1935A and a Mab D.; both are German marked. Are you collecting information on those too? Joe
 

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Thanks Joe, I will add the number to the list. We are not really gathering those other pistols yet, but who knows what the future holds! I am interested if your MAD D is in the 47,000 range?
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Hey Crank, just for laughs, what is the assembly number? Is it the last three of the serial or different? I have seen both.
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Crank,
There should be an assembly number or partial serial number located on the inside of the slide at the rear, on the frame, barrel and on the safety lever.
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Dgiz,Both frame and barrel match.(314)the german ser#42151 and WaA251.do not find one on safty.Where would the # be on the safty lever?I did not pull it out, not sure how to.is it hidden? Crank
 
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