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Unknown magazine, stamped "Made in Holland"

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I have a really nice blued magazine with black plastic bottom, that is marked "Made in Holland" on the back spine. Generally I wouldn't think much about it, but I was doing a Google search trying to find the brand, so I can buy another, and I came across a few of them being sold on various sites for anywhere from $85 to $150.

Can anyone tell me more about these mags? Are they "rare" as some sites claim, or uncommon enough to command higher prices.
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Vlim
Made in the Netherlands by MFT in the town of Tilburg. MFT was a subsidiary of NWM, who were part of the Quandt group that owned Mauser. Both did subcontract work for Mauser in the 1970s. MFT made the magazines for the 1970s Mauser HSc and Parabellum.

They also made magazines for the commercial market directly, these did not have the Mauser banner on the spine. That is what you have here.

Not super rare, but not common either.
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Anthony Vanderlinden
Vlim said:
Made in the Netherlands by MFT in the town of Tilburg. MFT was a subsidiary of NWM, who were part of the Quandt group that owned Mauser. Both did subcontract work for Mauser in the 1970s. MFT made the magazines for the 1970s Mauser HSc and Parabellum.

They also made magazines for the commercial market directly, these did not have the Mauser banner on the spine. That is what you have here.

Not super rare, but not common either.
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Interesting! What is it for? Did they make various types and did they supply the Dutch government/military? Time frame of operation?

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Anthony
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MFT, or 'Metaalwarenfabriek Tilburg', was specialized in metal pressings, so the production of magazines for Mauser (HSc from 1968-1977 and Parabellum 1970-1985) should have been easy. But they had a lot of problems getting the form and function in order. They eventually just supplied the tubes to Mauser and Mauser assembled their magazines themselves.

The exact situation is not fully clear, but from what I understood MFT decided to manufacture Parabellum magazines for the commercial market directly and marked them with Mauser and 'Made in Holland'. Mauser then objected against MFT using their logo without consent, so MFT dropped the Mauser banner and only kept 'Made in Holland'. I believe most were sold directly to Interarms for resale.

MFT did advertise with HSc manual production in their company brochures, but I doubt they sold any of them on the commercial market. They had a tendency of going bankrupt every decade or so. They did produce metal stampings for the army, like ammo belt links for military use. They also specialized in stamping airbag and seat belt parts for the automotive industry.

Mauser supplied MFT with WW2 production drawings of the P08 magazine as well as HSc production drawings to help them develop the new magazines in the late 1960s. I have a set of WW2 Mauser HSc drawings here that came from the MFT archives.

MFT filed for bankruptcy in 2009. A new company was founded at the same address called Allpress Metals B.V., who still do metal stampings for the automotive world (seatbelt parts and airbag parts).

Some examples of the MFT 'Mauser' and 'Made in Holland' magazines, along with 2 unfinished magazine tubes:

From a February, 1972 brochure:
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Dudemeister
Wow, that's awesome information.

The reason for asking is to understand if these have any "intrinsic" value, that I should hold on to it, or sell it and buy 3-4 Mec_gars in it's place.
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Edward Tinker
I don't think I Have one right now, but previously I was picking up the different magazines - I had ones marked Mauser, Mexico, Germany and Holland and Swiss (marked with the P).

Each is worth more than 'just' shooter mags and some are collectors mags (germany and Swiss).

I would say 'holland' and mexico marked are worth less than the other two mentioned, so maybe 2x a mec-gar, maybe 3x?
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Speaking of MecGar. They can be found in funny configurations too:
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Anthony Vanderlinden
Vlim said:
MFT, or 'Metaalwarenfabriek Tilburg', was specialized in metal pressings, so the production of magazines for Mauser (HSc from 1968-1977 and Parabellum 1970-1985) should have been easy. But they had a lot of problems getting the form and function in order. They eventually just supplied the tubes to Mauser and Mauser assembled their magazines themselves.

The exact situation is not fully clear, but from what I understood MFT decided to manufacture Parabellum magazines for the commercial market directly and marked them with Mauser and 'Made in Holland'. Mauser then objected against MFT using their logo without consent, so MFT dropped the Mauser banner and only kept 'Made in Holland'. I believe most were sold directly to Interarms for resale.

MFT did advertise with HSc manual production in their company brochures, but I doubt they sold any of them on the commercial market. They had a tendency of going bankrupt every decade or so. They did produce metal stampings for the army, like ammo belt links for military use. They also specialized in stamping airbag and seat belt parts for the automotive industry.

Mauser supplied MFT with WW2 production drawings of the P08 magazine as well as HSc production drawings to help them develop the new magazines in the late 1960s. I have a set of WW2 Mauser HSc drawings here that came from the MFT archives.

MFT filed for bankruptcy in 2009. A new company was founded at the same address called Allpress Metals B.V., who still do metal stampings for the automotive world (seatbelt parts and airbag parts).

Some examples of the MFT 'Mauser' and 'Made in Holland' magazines, along with 2 unfinished magazine tubes:
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From a February, 1972 brochure:
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Thank you!
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