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Over the years, the Radom Vis, and Polish eagle variants have accelerated in price from what was once attainable to what is now elite collector status.

In some ways, I’ve wondered at times why it took so long as they are incredibly well-made, and have a tremendous amount of World War II history.

Recently, a preoccupation holster, in very good to excellent condition, paired with a 1st C block in good condition, went for double what you can find these for from time to time in the market. Please see link below. With premium this pairing sold for over $9000. These Vis (PE) holsters can be picked up between $2500-$3750 depending upon condition and do come up from time to time. The C Block in decent condition is probably an $1800 piece. I’ll let you do the math compared to the auction price.

RADOM VIS MOD.35 'P.35(p)' SEMI-AUTO PISTOL PLUS | Guns & Military Artifacts Handguns & Pistols Semi-Automatic Pistols | Online Auctions | Proxibid

PRE WAR HOLSTER AND 5 MAGS. Cal. 9mm Luger. S# C8624. Bbl. 4 3/4" unfinished w/ matching S#, eagle party symbol & 2 eagle 823 proofs. Mfg. during German occupation as Type 1 w/ 3 levers plus stock slot. Eagle party symbol on matching S# slide. WaA 77 on frame & slide also having eagle party...
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Delafrontera said:
I looked at the GB auction for the Radom posted above, as well as most of all the other Radoms for sale on the GB website. None (that I remembered anyway) of the auctions stated that the internal numbers are all matching and/or there are no photos of the internal parts showing matching numbers. For those advanced collectors, do you buy this gun with the assumption that the internal numbers will match, and if not, send it back based on a three-day inspection? Or do you care if they match (i.e. seems like that would be a must). What happens if you try to pull the main spring housing, safety and hammer off the pistol for inspection and to verify matching numbers and are not able to do so because the main spring housing can’t come out without difficulty (i.e. you cannot verify all matching numbers). Do you bid as if the pistol serial numbers are mis-matched in the first place? For the luger, matching numbers are a must, but I am not observing that with the Radom (I also see this with the Astras as well on GB). Both guns seem to have the "easily accessible" serial numbers addressed or shown in photos but slim on internal photos of serial numbers. Your thoughts and views are GREATLY appreciated.

Thank you for your time and input.

Kind Regards, Randy
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Sorry, didn’t answer he rest of your question: never leave anything to chance. Ask for additional pictures and if you can’t get pictures or the pictures aren’t clear run, don’t walk.
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alvin
Knowledge is the most important factor. If have serious interest in a type and plan to put thousands of dollars in, need to start from its collector book. Otherwise, seller gives you three days to inspect, you won't know what to check.
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This one was in my dads collection, any reason not to shoot it? I'm not sure if he did, I just wasn't around if he did. Or just put if back in the safe. Thanks
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Scooter91 said:
This one was in my dads collection, any reason not to shoot it? I'm not sure if he did, I just wasn't around if he did. Or just put if back in the safe. Thanks
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Impossible to tell from just this picture. Take it to your local gunsmith and have him check it out if you’re not knowledgeable. Make sure the bore is in good shape and free and clear and the gun functions and operates properly on the recoil. Again, take it to a professional to check it out.
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Hessian said:
P.35(p) were passed up consistently as P.08's were the target at gun shows in the early 80's and early 90's, even early examples. You could buy complete P.35(p) rigs for $300.00 to $350.00 not anymore and very late war examples now surpass P.08 prices, with bnz/similar on par with Kreighoff P.08's prices. I bought them then and the years to follow as they were within my budget, fortunately there isn't much for me to hunt for withstanding the illusive late "J" and a couple of others. I find the most interesting examples are early German and extremely late German production.
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I still have auction receipt from when gramps paid 30$ for a 1st series d block and a whopping 35$ for a Bnz marked one . This was back in 1972.
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alvin
I just did a calculation. For $30 to reach $5,500 in 50 years (compound yearly), annual return is 11%. Radom has been doing very well.
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