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VoPo P08 question regarding parts numbering

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm considering purchasing a VoPo P08 and have a question regarding parts numbering.
It's primarily a 1938 S/42, with an EG barrel, (import marked "RTB-Corp. Miami, FL." on the bottom of the barrel).
It has the Sunburst on the frame just below the take-down lever, 25-in-sunburst, and a large "X" on the right rear of the frame, but no other Iron Curtain marks that I recognize. Nor are any marks pinged out.

Most of the major component parts are original and original matching. But there are a few of the other parts such as the trigger, extractor, rear toggle pin, the breech block part of the toggle train, and the sideplate that are not matching, nor are they re-numbered.
(the side plate is an Erfurt made piece, modified for the sear safety, then re-modified for eliminate the cut-out).

The gun does have a matching magazine. ( number 2 marked denoting it's the second magazine)

My question.....how much does the non-matching aspect of the parts detract from the correctness of the gun?
(Quite a bit, if this weren't a re-built gun, but as a VoPo, it is by definition a rebuilt gun)
In other words, is matching numbers always the rule for EG guns ?
 
#2 ·
An all matching Eastie reworked Luger is almost nonexistant. Mismatched/renumbered parts is just what you expect when you find one. I have found that usually the toggle and breechblock comes from one pistol, the slide comes from another and the lower half comes from a third pistol. The barrel is almost always Eastie new made. Many variations exist but parts from two to three pistols is generally the norm.
 
#4 ·
Not much to add.

The receiver was usually force matched to the frame number and they loved to use complete toggle links from other pistols, although you can find the funniest combinations.

So this being the 'norm' on DDR guns, it doesn't affect the value at all.
Sometimes you see the numbers on the small parts X-ed out.

I also have a 1941 dated Mauser with an Erfurt side plate, including sear safety cutout, as well as a VoPo that is mostly a first issue P08. We even know the existance of a VoPo with a crossed rifles Russian/Bulgarian receiver.
 
#7 ·
I got last week a VoPo P.08 without any replaced parts, a Mauser byf 42.......I think so.
All matching serial numbers.
Still the original barrel, Mauser grips and original blueing.Unfortunatelly the pistol was sold 1984 in Germany and got new german proof stamps (only to see if you disassemble the pistol).
The VoPo stamp is under the side plate ,VoPo Bezirk 10.
One magazine without a serial number,the second renumbered to the gun.