[PAOLO]

Hello people

I recently purchased this holster.At once,it looked to be a commercial 4"3/4 Luger holster.But(there's always a "but") it bears a producer mark and a 1917 date.More it bears a pair of beveled holes for sealing a gun inside with a twine.
Could someone tell me anything about?


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[Guest_V]

Paolo,

AKAH (Alfred Kind) is Germany´s oldest supplier of gun accessories such as holsters etc. They still make the genuine K98 cross-hatched leather slings but sadly, not 08 holsters. They´ve been trading for the last 150 years (http://www.akah.de).

Good quality cow hide was in short supply in 1917 and this is one of the pig skin holsters that were typical for that period.

The hole for sealing twine is also quite common and is still used here for security reasons (e.g. on border crossings or during safe deposit).

Hope this helps.

Patrick

 

[Edward Tinker]

In several luger books (Jan has an example but I don't remember which one), there are a couple of Lugers STILL in the holster with the security twine still connected.

Patrick, that is interesting, thanks for the clarification, danke

Ed

 

[PAOLO]

Patrick

You said:"Good quality cow hide was in short supply in 1917 and this is one of the pig skin holsters that were typical for that period."
Typical? How many have you seen? I've to say that I've never seen one.
Pigskin holsters of the late WW2 are usual, but I've never seen a WW1
pigskin holster for P08. I've personally seen 4 LP08 pigskin holsters of 1915, but never a P08 one. Nor in the books (in my experience)are reported such items.But it's possible I'm wrong. Even also advanced German collectors have the same opinion about.
But else, this is NOT a P08 holster! It's an holster for a 1906 model
gun, with the only unusual feature of the date (as you know commercial holsters were usually not dated) and of the holes for sealing the gun (but this is a later matter-probaly of the Weimar era). I hope that someone could help saying something more about.

 

[Guest_V]

Paolo,

You´re right. There definitely do seem to be more LP 08 pig skin holsters still in existence. I´ve seen two pigskin WWI P08 pigskin holsters - and Bender lists one on page 264 ("pebble finish" would, I suppose denote pig skin). A pig skin holster would have been considered as second rate and maybe that´s why they were not kept. Pig skin is also not as durable as cow hide.

A. Kind is a German company and I don´t think they ever made or supplied Swiss holsters. And this certainly doesn´t resemble a typical Swiss Pistole 06 holster (?)

Patrick

 

[huggiebear]

A. Kind never supplied holsters to the Swiss military but certainly sold holsters in Switzerland for the commercial market. They are still being discovered in Switzerland to this day. Not that many but enough for one to know that there was a market for this holsters at one time.

 

[Guest_V]

The Swiss o6 holsters I´ve seen look completely different (closure/ shoulder strap/opening flap etc) - or where am I going wrong?

Patrick

 

[lugerholsterrepair]

Paolo, This holster is very interesting! The body appears to be made of pebble grained cow hide. This is different from pigskin. The top appears to be pigskin. I cannot see for sure in the photo's but this is what I think I see. Another unusual feature is the straps and such. They were usually made of cow hide but the closure strap appears to be made of pigskin. Pigskin holsters were quite rare in either time period but more common in WW2. This holster appears to be made for the 4 and three quarter inch barrel but in the military fashion, date and maker mark. Jerry Burney

 

[Guest_V]

Thanks, Jerry, comprende.

BTW the baby holster has been invited to accompany me on this year´s Caen Normandy Pegasus commemoration jump - but contents are not permitted. What can I use for a filler?

Patrick

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[Guest_V]

Well, it obviously didn´t work first time. Second attempt with Adobe Photoshop.

Patrick

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[Guest_V]

After this - I give up!



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[Edward Tinker]

If you have ANY spaces, then the software from the forum has trouble reading it.

Ed

 

[Guest_V]

Thank you Ed. I´ll take that into account.
Patrick

 

[lugerholsterrepair]

Patrick, Thanks for the photo's of my baby! Looks to be holding up well...I don't know what you are allowed to use. I trust You mean you will not be able to use an actual real pistol. If you would be able to use the plastic molded piece you sent me to make the holster I would be happy to ship it to you immediately. Please let me know if this would work and I will get it right out. When is the Jump? Is the lanyard attached your Father's original? Let me know your address if you would like me to ship your pistol back. Thanks my Friend, Jerry