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Perhaps one of you that is more familiar with the Radoms can give me an idea of what I have here and what it may be worth.

I bought this Radom used from a retired officer that had it in his collection. Looking at these two websites, I concluded that it is a
[FONT=&quot]WWII Nazi-Proofed Early Grade I German Vis Polish Radom 9mm Pistol:

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]http://www.buymilsurp.com/polish-radom-vis-35-9mm-pistol-grade-iii-german-vis-p-4784.html

[/FONT]"Grade I German Vis: First Nazi-manufactured guns. With decocker, take-down latch and shoulder stock slot. Excellent quality, high-polish hot blue finish. Slide markings: "F.B. Radom VIS Mod. 35 Pat. Nr. 15567". Waffenamt acceptance mark and "P-35(p)" were stamped below the first line. Frame was marked with "WaA 77" (Radom) and proof marks "625" (Steyr). Serial numbers are located on the right side of the slide A0001 to Dxxxx. Around 60 000 made in 1940."
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From the website below, specifically a
[/FONT]Grade 1 Subvariation 3.
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http://www.p38gun.com/Radom3Leverrig.htm



The serial # is C7342. The S/N on the slide and the frame match, and it also has the
[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]"625" (Steyr) marks on the left had side of the slide. The barrel lug however, is marked with either a 627 or a 621. I suspect the barrel had been replaced at one time by the armory. It does have the lanyard and should stock slot.

Am I on track here? Does the barrel lug marking not matching the other serial numbers take away significantly from the gun value? What would you guess-timate this gun to be worth?

Below are links to some of the pictures. If anyone would like to examine it further, please drop me a PM and I can send you the hi-res pictures.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/westy57/IMG_4005-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/westy57/IMG_3986-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/westy57/IMG_3985-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/westy57/IMG_4004-3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/westy57/IMG_4021-1.jpg


Thanks in advance for your help! Great forum too by the way. I can see I'll spent countless hours here.

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Good evening Tom, a very nice first alphabet serial prefix. The slide, frame and barrel were serialed. So the 621 serial number on barrel lug, is not original to the pistol.

However it is visually very nice, enjoy it.
 

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Tom,
I hesitate to place values on firearms, to subjective. Perhaps some of the site members will post their guesstimation.
 

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If the right side and the grips straps are in the same same condition as the left side, and if the gun was all matching- it would be a $1000-1200 item. Mismatched barrel puts it in a $600-800 range, in my opinion...
Again, it is only a guess...
 

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I was going to go out to Blue Book Publications and see what they had for a value on this pistol, but I didn't the serial number description:

"P.35 NAZI RADOM TYPE 1 - 3 LEVER & SLOT- rust blue, unblued barrel, lanyard loop, black VIS/FB plastic grips, many small parts ser. numbered, ser. nos. 01-12,500 & 1/A0001-1/E8000 (1st Series) prefix."

"Serial number ranges use #### for the no alphabetical prefix series, 1#### for the first alphabetical prefix series, and 2#### for the second alphabetical prefix series. Mill marks are more prominent as the war progressed."

What does this mean?: 1#### for the first alphabetical prefix series, and 2#### for the second alphabetical prefix series. Since mine is a CXXXX is that a 3?

Sorry to seem like such a noob! I just want to get all the info available. If someone whats to take a peek at the page that lists all models, here you go:

https://store.bluebookinc.com/InstantAccess/Category.aspx?product=5&id=790

If someone already has access to this information and feels kind hearted and wants to save me $ 5, drop me a PM.

Thanks again folks!
 

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Hi Tom. Truly a beautiful pistol but the mismatched barrel hurts it. As Francis said above, pricing is very subjective. Also, the Blue Book, like all price guides can at best be used in very general ways. Market is governed by supply (in this case more or less finite, tending to ebb and flow as collections are released) and demand (often impacted by popular movies; Prvt. Ryan had a profound affect on US Weapons values as well as on HJ Knives!). Another major variable is economic/geographical factors. If matching and at a larger show in the Southeast, I would estimate 1000-1400. With the replacement barrel, half of that.
My 2 cents,
Keith
 

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Tom,

The "Radom's" produced under German occupation were numbered with the first production 1 to apprx. 12,000, then numbering changed to include an alpha prefix to the number. A1 - A10000 then B1 - B10000 and so forth to the Z alpha. They then stated over again at alpha A and production ceased in the alpha K block

So 1/XXXX is shorthand for the first alpha serial production and 2/XXXX is shorthand for the second alpha serial production

There are three basic variations: Type I, three levers (slide hold open lever, disassembly lever and decocking lever) and slotted for shoulder stock; Type II, three levers and no stock slot; Type III, two levers (slide hold open lever and decocker, {disassembly lever eliminated}) and no stock slot.
 

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radom brother

Hi Westy,
I was just looking over your radom, mine was made close to the same time C3103 , when I got it 30 plus years ago, it had a bad right grip, cracked and broken. It took me 25 years to get a replacement, some guy in the mid west had new old stock , pearl handles . Gives the gun a totally differnt feel . Took the left hand grip ,putit on ebay. Went for $77 . This week. Icould not believe it. Dave
 

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I have no idea whether I am in the right place,but here goes: I am holding a VIS p-35, sn K8189. It is pretty clean and all numbers match. HOWEVER, it has what appear to be wooden grips , checkered, and instead of the normal triangular VIS/FB in a triangle, there are only 5 concentric triangles. Are these original or what? rdc
 
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